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You do not have to follow a system or method

All of your questions will be answered when you drop the strict adherence to a system. You don’t have to do everything by the book
in order to get chicks. At least, do things according to how you feel good. I use direct because I like the whole idea of it. Cool.
The I like you opener and all that other stuff is designed to break down excuses. When you tear down enough excuses and start to live
the way you want to, then you can do whatever the hell you want to do and get the results you want. Direct keeps you sharp and it
prevents you from going back to weak-like behaviors. That is it. As long as you don’t go back to acting like who is weak then you can do whatever the hell you want.

Honestly getting women is extremely easy. Since all they’re dying to have happen is that a nice guy go up to them and not be scared
of them and not try to impress them, then all you have to do is be there and be you.

Simple. The best way to have success is to allow your true self out. Believe me, this is the hardest thing to come to terms with. But once you do then you’ll have to peel girls off you.

What direct, or any other seduction system for that matter, teaches you is to not be an admirer of women but a man that communicates with them without fear or embarrasment.

From what I see written here it seems as if some members are dangling between being genuinely themselves and doing something to get a chick.

Some members question are filled with statements such as; I feel she doesn’t X or I feel she doesn’t Y. If you base your approach, to a
woman, on pure speculation then you’ll never know if what you have is good enough for her. Ever. So stop speculating and
talk to girls from a place where you genuinely feel good and let ‘er rip. Communicate from the position of power, see that little girl
inside of her, and allow her to bring that out see and feel her energy.  make her react towards you, bring her into your frame.

So you Need Advice on how to be a challange?

Being direct is the definition of being a challenge. You may say that you’re familiar with in-direct right? Therefore you will not
know how much of a challenge being direct is because either you haven’t tried it or you’re still excusing yourself. The indirect
guys have the right idea regarding sparking a woman’s attraction and keeping it short term, but what they never tap into is the
repeatable and almost routine way in which women fall in love. I’m not talking about women considering you good enough to sleep with you, I’m talking about women falling head over heels, stupid in love with you. It’s a huge difference. TRUST ME!!!!

Why the hell do you always read about Last Minute Resistance and BS tests when reading about indirect and you don’t see it addressed by guys who are direct?

It’s because when you go indirect they are not sure if you’re the real deal or not. As a matter of fact, most of the top dogs in the indirect world have a hard time keeping a girl. They think that they can overcome a problem like that with more technology. Can’t do it. That’s the grey area where love and emotions rule. They don’t tap into that. We do. Otherwise we’d be spouting routines and stupid gimmicks. But we don’t.

Attraction and Rapport is what it’s all about. Bring her into your world & connect with her.

What can be more challenging to a woman than exposing your true self infront of her 100%? They have stock responses to dorks,
but when you come at them directly they don’t have a response to that. And why, may you ask? It’s because that’s the way that women are programmed to fall in love. They do it repeatedly and routinely.

Look at any chick flick and tell me that the lead actress favors a guy that is slick and playerish over a guy who is genuine. You’ll
go nuts trying to find that flick. So guess what? You have girls watching these movies since childhood and everyrthing else around
her is telling her about romance and love. They Shit test because they want a prince and not a frog. They are trying to keep the frog
out at all costs. Frog behaviors include insecurity, which is something that women don’t particularly hope to find in a mate.

When you’re direct you will get shit tests until you learn to become comfortable doing it. Women’s bull shit detectors are tuned
in to detect Bull Shit people after all, so at the beginning you’ll stumble and fall until you get it. Being open and genuine and being
comfortable doing it is the aim in all this. So there again is an example of what women respond to and are hard wired to respond to.
So if you continue to look at things through an indirect mentality then you’ll overlook the most important thing. Which is to be
genuine above all else.

To be 100% genuine may take you a few years but when you do achieve it, all of the stumbles and falls that you endured to get there
will be worthwhile. This my Dear friends is the destination. Will you go or will you go elsewhere?


January 1, 2011 Posted by | Introduction to the Game | Leave a comment

Do women behave unnaturally?

I know right from the start that this is going to be a very controversial article, but in order to understand our modern social dynamics it must be looked at.

Before I say too much I want to once again acknowledge that strong independent women have added a lot of value and have indeed become a strong fiber of our nation and who we are as a people.

This empowerment however truly is a double-edged sword. When it comes down to a long-term relationship or marriage, a woman who has her own independence essentially becomes a dueling force with her husband.

All of a sudden it is the man who is supposed to be in line with his wife and often just has to cater to all of her demands and needs. It is not really a woman’s fault necessarily for how she became who she is, it is just the reality that we have to deal with.

It is the natural and biological role for the man to be the head of the house, however some interesting things have happened in the past three decades. Women today have more freedom and opportunity than ever before in history of modern society here and now.

Because of a woman’s now inherent character and behavior, any man who chooses to be any relationship with her for a longer-term, is going to have to put up with a lot more drama than really is natural. This is the dilemma of millions of men today.

A woman is sometimes so strong in her own character and independence, that she will easily lead the family instead of the man. I know of several families specifically that are like this personally. They really is a role reversal and is not natural; but as long as one person really is the head of the house then at least there is some semblance of balance.

This is not just a hard-core traditionalist approach, rather I want to tell you from the universal perspective of objectiveness. I’m not saying definitely whether it is right or wrong that a woman can wear the pants in the family, but I want you to the side for yourself what kind of man you are and what you want to put up with in the future.

If you end up or choose to be with one of these strong independent women, you are going to have a lot more oppression in your life than you realize, I can guarantee it. It is not in a man’s inherent nature and been to be held back and repressed from his role as head of the household and provider.

So many families today, the woman is the one in control and the man is just feeling more and more like the screen door hit him on the way out. The fact that our media portrays this, as men being incompetent buffoons, truly cements this role reversal. And it is quite pathetic I think.

If you are married, I do not want to give you advice but you are responsible for the decisions you make and hopefully you can still communicate a lot and make things work. However many married men are finding they are in way too deep into a situation that really does not feel natural to them.

My words of advice if you will are that, it is NOT natural. However we still have to live with these women, if we have already chosen that.

You could say that this is a pessimistic view, but someone needs to bring it up because there is a reason we have a 50% divorce rate and no one is talking about the real reason why.

Entire lives and families are destroyed founded upon a woman’s empowerment and independence, let me repeat again that independent women, although they have a lot of drama have added a lot of value (unparalleled value) to our society and the world.

Relationships today have become part of this 50-50 relationship dynamic in which both the man and woman tried to balance things out. Now a woman has more demands and expectations than ever before in history, this makes it harder for them and to just do his part of being head of the household when she is always nagging on about something.

So if you are still a single man, I strongly encourage you to think about the consequences of being with one of these women and a long-term relationship. Though I bet this is going to piss a lot of women off but you know what? For your sake and the sake of All men it needs to be said.

You should have the full right to determine and choose your life path without having to give in to a woman’s demands which are based on unnatural foundations.

I think all men have the right to come home and not hear about not stop nagging about small little details of inconsequential things. No matter what these women will say to counteract what I am sane, that just proves that they really are coming from their own independence and perception of the world as they know it.

Little do they realize or even respect the fact that most of the women in the world, (although not as developed psychologically or motivationally), would be happy just to be their natural role of a mother while the man takes care of providing for the family.

They cannot imagine that these traditional women would let men get away with some of the things they do; the sad reality is that men are letting women get away with some of the things they do (which is unnaturally founded).

It is not the natural role for a woman to wear the pants in the family. So decide for yourself where you stand on this issue, and think about the consequences of being in a long-term relationship with a very independent woman.

It is about time that men understand what is going on, and take back their power. Maybe at this point women will really respect men for finally standing up.

“Maybe I will be that caveman style man and just dominate a girl and have a one night stand with her but, in the long run, I don’t want to have a girlfriend who is totally dominated by me.”

there is nothing caveman about a man fullfilling his biological nature of being the leader of the realtionship, head of the family or the decition maker, niether was anything mentioned about totally dominating women, mearly that 50-50 (% wise) realtions dont work.

“I prefer to date a girl who has independent characteristics “

you better be prepared for a lot of unneccesary drama my friend!….¿ever wondered why women throw childish tantrums just to get the (or your) attention, like a small child throwing its toys out of the pram?
besides a natural “alpha female” is submissive due to bilogical and physiclogical nature (can you be the leader of a realtionship (i.e. more that 50% control) while having to allow something to enter your body?.
a womans natural role is that of submission to the dominante male and of nuturing and caring for the home and family. the natural biological role of a man is that of the provider, how often do you see in nature (100%) where the female is in the den looking after the den (home) and caring for the offspring and the male is the one that brings the food (i.e. goes hunting, brings the kill home) for the whole family to enjoy?

over the years as we gave more and more equall rights to women (and correctly so, (just not in relationships!)) to women more and more modern relationships went down the plughole..divorce rate rose, (i say 50-50 relationship = 50% divorce rate!). During our grandparents generation divorse was almost unheard of! my grandmother still talks to my grandfather today, 2 years after he passed away.. now a days we have realtionships where it is not unheard of the throwing of electro-domestics from one to the other?.

On the topic of the despical crime of domestic violence, that is also upon the increase and juvinile crime, bothe of which were almost non-existent only a century ago, when both women and men knew their natural biological roles. In my opinion domestic violence occurs when the man is being his natural self, the head of the house hold, and the women also the head (due to her modern day social programming) what occurs is a clasic power struggle the woman tries to be the one “que manda” (un natural) due to her reading in the cosmopolitian magazine and diario de patricia, her friends (social programming) that its the woman that leads the realtionship, when that happens we can have a bitter power struggle when neither side conceeds, the breakdown of a relationship (LTR, Marriage) and potentially domestic violence. All because neither the male nor the female knew their natural roles.

Raising juvinile crime?? ok we have had women in the work place for some 70 years or so, that is ok by me, how ever did the latch key generation begin?  who is at home to look after the children and educate them of the wrongs and rights of life, what is acceptable behaviour or not? yep you guessed it mama was out at work being her husbands social equall to confirm to what is considered to be social normal. juvinle crime was extreemly rare 100 years ago when both man women knew their natural and biological roles in life.

December 27, 2010 Posted by | Inner Game, Introduction to the Game, Leading | 2 Comments

What is natural seduction?

Inner game makes attraction and sex a ‘thinking’, ego-based and ‘logical’ thing. Inner Game often creates even more trauma and anxiety because inner game can never be resolved (as it’s not the path of attraction in the first place).A man is never worthy on the sexual level to a popular woman’s social status, It is on a womans social status**.

Both are irrelevant to sexual chemistry yet it’s the incessant focus on ‘personality’ and fault that leaves men thinking their sex life is based on their ego.

Typical mindset: “It’s me it’s my personality, my ego is responsible for succeeding with women, sex and attraction. try try again if it doesn’t work. If women reject me it’s my fault.
I have to convey my personality and be interesting or intriguing. I have to know the right things to say to captivate women fast. Inner game is everything. There is only inner and outer game If women reject me, I must suck If I don’t succeed with women, there’s something wrong with me so I have to fix my thoughts and beliefs (personally) to be confident”.

** Direct, indirect & NLP based seduction base themselves on a woman social status, to say on her social character and not her natural character. Natural grounding assists you to be come aligned, (& polarised) to what that natural character of a woman is, it is natural and there in all women, society and our up bringing can effect & influence the way we think but it cannot change our nature. There is no “egoic” or ego involved with natural grounding. It´s not an inner game technique because a womans natural character is there whether you like it or not, it is not dealing with your “ego” as described above.


Direct & Indirect teach you to be fearful of women “approach anxiety” by just using that term it is just attracting more of the same. Similar thoughts create similar actions thus similar results. Just mentioning or thinking about your approach anxiety (or inner game (lack of)) just reinforces that belief giving more strength to it, thus focusing on inner game (the need for better) creates a need for it.

True rock solid inner game is self acceptance, accepting who you are as a person, including all your faults and being comfortable in your own skin.

Ever noticed that the happier you are the less you need? Go for happy.


Neither (Direct, indirect or NLP)  teach you anything more than just to fear woman,(is nt that the reason for A.A in the first place?)  to just keep on approaching, & keep on working on your inner game (fix my problems, it´s me that’s at fault, self “ego”). When you know what a womans natural character is you have nothing to fear and just approach any ways.

Method based seduction really just teach you that it is the method that is getting you the girl and not you. In reality YOU are good enough to get any girl.
Method based seduction be it Direct,Indirect Mystery method or sex code are good because they assist you in getting one of the 3 key elements that are important to success – Experience with women. Natural grounding assists in getting intune to and understanding what the natural sexuality & character of women is.


Uff!!! The Greeks were correct Aphrodite is amongst us!


Watch that video…come on be honest.. would you fear approaching her or a woman like that? guess what, that is the natural character in all women.

There is nothing to fear with the natural character of women.
Indirect / sex code / mystery Method just teaches you to be fearful of women that they are “so high above you” is nt that why you have to..maximise your value? (because she has more value than you) or neg her (lower her value) why would you do that other than because she is above you. Its just communicating with her Social character with your social character in short social game.Direct is not so different.

Natural game is simply communicating with a womans natural character with your natural character. Taking away social or society created values & or belief systems. It really is that simple. The best & possibly quickest way to natural game is to make the shortest & most difficult journey; to move from your head to your heart – dont think about the seduction, feel it.
The easiest way to natural game is to first discover what the natural character of women is and get into (a polar) relationship with that. This is where Natural grounding come in to effect. It is beyond my scope to write yet another post on natural grounding.
An example of polar relationship between masculine & feminine energies.


Once you are grounded in the natural energies and femininity of women, remember the natural character is there biologically in all women, you will be ready to communicate with a the womans natural character, stripping away all her ego centric “egoic” “inner game”  – the aloofness of “I´m above it all” bitchiness of cold hearted prima dona “you will be lucky to be with me” just because she is beautiful. All women know that this is not her natural sexuality.
This if you have not guessed by now is her social character. This is where Indirect / Sex code, NLP & Direct method place their communication, with her social character either lowering her aloofness or breaking her frame (negging / Indirect ,Frame breaking NLP) maximizing your own value (in relation to hers) (Indirect/Sex code). Follow that up by trying to win the power battle by getting her to qualify herself to him (Indirect / NLP / Sex code) or straight up telling her she is beautiful (direct). Note that in the aforementioned techniques the seducer is still communicating with a womans falsely created social character & value (she is so high above me because she is so beautiful…come on guys!!!!). It can end with a troubled relationship especially if she is the one that wears the pants in the relationship.
In the end the player just ends up trying to prove his social value to women. (Not his natural value or character)
Social character & social value (male or female) are not based on solid foundations or natural laws. Think about it, they are not created by nature but by society. Perhaps this is why in the west we currently have a growing problem in the relationships between men & women, broken relationship, increasing divorce rate, seduction community….
Im not critising Social game be it Direct, Indirect / Sex code or NLP as it works & has its obvious success but in the end it is still just hit & miss success which is why you see many PUA / AVENS opening 20 sets easily in just one night and becoming stressed when they have an apparent lack of success,  A numbers game. They are dependent upon results.
Natural game is to just open up a woman energy and communicate with her natural character. Instead of focusing on some pre-prepared opener or “opening set” to coin a phrase just focus on talking to the girl & getting her to open up her energies to you. Be in harmony and synergy with her at all times. This involves moving away from and removing the egoic self from the equation that the seduction community teaches you, regardless of method.
Seduction is about the woman and to paraphrase Rion Williams “Seduction is bringing out the natural character in women”.
So focus on the woman, get into harmony with he energies

To paraphrase one of the best naturals that I have the pleasure of knowing (Simon AKA Don)“I am successful with girls because I know how they think”
Listen to the words in this song.

Just ‘chill out’ and really be yourself when you´re with girls without letting their drama and their beauty get in your way, they will respect you, be relaxed around you as well and be charmed by your ‘charisma’ and sexual gravity. There are too many expectations with the traditional ‘dating’ frame of ‘courting’ or ‘wooing her’ and it’s not what she’s looking for anyways. Once you are comfortable and not nervous around her and this includes not grinning and smiling as much as you used to, or hanging on her every word, she will be a lot more comfortable to you & around you, will let her defenses down and start to open up because she feels she can trust you. Above all you will not be thinking of what to do or say next or thinking of pre-prepared routines or “contra-cortes” things will just flow naturally.
This is part of being a ‘natural’. You will find that if you can be a real natural with women, they will know how to instinctively respond to your unadulterated, uncompromised natural behavior. And when framed correctly, can easily lead to a physical relationship that is mutually beneficial for the both of you. And it will be one that she will not resent because it ‘just happened’. kept you have to get rid of the idea of trying to be really aggressive and ‘getting some’, and really just lay back and chill out and be natural when relating to women.
When you are not concerned about her beauty and none of that drama is allowed in to your paradigm of reality, she will often change your attitude in order to match up with yours and she will pace your lead.
Of course she brings additional issues to the table if you are going to have a real relationship with her, but for the short-term free and fun experience, it can be very satisfactory for the both of you because there are not many high expectations or demands on either part. This is pure and natural interdependence in a win-win situation between the both of you.
You can let her know that you will not accept her drama or tolerate it, or her bitchiness or whatever behavior you don´t like and she can take it or leave it; and when you know that you can drop her at any moment, she will be aware that you are a man who is serious and she will want to be around you because you are a man who finally stands up and sticks to his guns, a man of his word. Women really respect this and are not attracted to the ‘mummy boys’ though they will easily ‘chat’ with them. A mummy’s boy is not going to be her passionate ‘lover’.
It  doesn’t even matter what you say because you’re not trying to impress her or win her approval, so you can just have a natural good time with her by just being 100% yourself.  There is so much more to sexual attraction that is unspoken (non verbal) and that she is more perceptive of. Yes it is very easy for a man to get turned on, like a light switch. Or as a woman is more like a volume control. This is why you have to be a natural and not overwhelm her in the first place.

In fact you will experience the most success when you really do not care what the outcome is, because then if she is lucky enough she will be able to experience a natural process of attraction that fulfills her biological and sexual desires.
This is the real modern mating dance and ritual. It is ultimately very natural and this is the part which connects universally within her that she cannot explain or put into words. You can give her this powerful and natural experience that is very emotional and liberating for her.
To have this natural attraction and accelerated relationship with her, you cannot play by the normal rules of what society calls the game or dating. You must align yourself closer to our biological realities where the man has the power in the relationship and a woman will follow your lead.
It is the unspoken pure power of you being able to be a man in your reality who naturally knows how to build sexual attraction and tension in a woman, which all men have whether they are aware of it or not, that will lead to many great adventures and unforgettable memories in your life.
Also, make sure that you are the first one to end things such as communication opportunities, this keeps the power in your favor as well.
That is the natural experience.
Most of our women can’t help Being bitchy or aloof it is because men give in to their demands, society has placed so much pressure on them to be ‘beautiful’ and maintain the standard (and compete with one another) that a whole invisible shroud has been made that is covering the underlying biological reality of the mating process.

The best thing is just to change your entire state of mind of where you’re coming from. You really have to see the underlying paradigm and essentially ‘deny’ her (d)illusional front or ‘forced reality’ or ‘shroud’ when it comes to the mating game.
Because she still is a woman, and remember that the paradox & irony is; she is wondering where the real men are. When you are playing natural game you are aware through knowledge and continuing experience that the sexual attraction and communication process is basically the same with all of the women you encounter.
They get turned on in similar ways, and actually you can get them to a point where they literally become paralysed and say ‘take me now’. Actually happens often with me even with the “prima dona” high social value girls simply because I am happy to let them play their social game while I just communicate with her natural (biological) character.
Your knowledge of everything that is going on here and knowing they all women have these biological sensibilities and desires will allow you to full fill their desires when you can systematically lead them (as a natural man) through the process.
She may think it is coincidence, but it didn’t matter because you are being natural and you are a man. You can sweep her off of her feet and give her what she biologically and sexually desires. And you can do this over and over again.If you ever forget, just remember to go back to nature; where you have the birthright and so does she to know how to naturally go through the mating process.


December 25, 2010 Posted by | Introduction to the Game | 3 Comments

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